Questioner: Actually even at the time of depression one is aware of and knows that it is happening to the non-Self.
Dadashri: That verily is the Self. Instead one becomes clouded and cold with the depressive effects. When this happens to the non-Self, You need to elevate him. What else is to be done? It is not necessary to lift him up daily. Only when the depression comes, then it is necessary to say, ‘I am full of infinite energy, I am the abode of infinite bliss.’
The place where there is never any depression is ‘our’ location. That place is the place of infinite bliss. If you say this then You will swiftly ascend to Your location.
- When depression arises if one has such awareness that, ‘This is not my real form’, ‘I am Shuddhatma—pure Self, I know this depression’, and if such separation is decidedly fixed, then one’s goal on how to overcome depression is accomplished. The awakened awareness—jagruti has to be constantly preserved. To keep nurturing and nourishing it is verily the Self—Shuddhatma.
Questioner: And really the Self is the knower only, no? When did depression arise, how much it is, is it less or more then the last time?
Dadashri: The Self knows everything.
Questioner: Just as one remains the knower of the depression, similarly during the time of elevation also if Self remains as the knower then the time will not come for the depression, no?
Dadashri: If one hears something good about his self and at that time if he becomes stiff with pride, the Self knows this. Once the elevation has happened, the depression will follow for sure.